Small Tiny Speck on Beef Under Skin

snowathlete

Something i accept noticed more than of lately has been lumps under my pare, especially the rib area, but other places too. Just most everywhere i recollect, simply more noticable on the rib cage.

They are sore if you rub your fingers along them, and tend to be pocket-size - near the size of peas.
I read other people with ME/CFS have them too.

I wonder if anyone knows what they actually are?

And why do we get them? I mean in that location has to be some kind of explaination to it. Has anyone had them removed, or studied to meet what they are compossed of?

justy

justy

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Hi Snowfall, i have lumps that are sore to touch over my bottom ribs - sometimes they neat up and go bigger and more painful. I have also noticed smaller, as you say pea sized lumps nether the skin that are likewise sore. They dont correspond with lymph nodes as far as i tin can tell. I tried discussing the rib ane with my doctor but was met with the usual incredulous stare, he didnt even want to hash out it - another female GP said i had a detached rib -information technology ceratinly wasnt that at all.
I would exist interested to hear what others accept to say about this.

Sparrow

I have those bumps too! ...Virtually of mine are on my upper ribs. They definitely get more pronounced and more than painful sometimes.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what they are either. Have used up my incredulous doctor stares on other things. ;)

mellster

Merely a idea, this sounds similar to the FM lumps described (and never fully accepted by mainstream) by St Amand (the guaifenesin guy). Just google 'FM lumps st amand' and check it out. Hope this helps.

triffid113

Something i have noticed more of lately has been lumps nether my peel, especially the rib area, only other places too. Simply about everywhere i think, merely more noticable on the rib muzzle.

They are sore if you rub your fingers along them, and tend to exist small - about the size of peas.
I read other people with ME/CFS have them besides.

I wonder if anyone knows what they actually are?

And why do we get them? I mean at that place has to be some kind of explaination to it. Has anyone had them removed, or studied to run into what they are compossed of?

I practice not know almost pea sized lumps that hurt. I become a few that practise not injure. I believe they are, or are related to, peel tags. Dr. Eric Braverman says pare tags are caused by insufficient folate.

Triffid113

justy

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This is quite different to skin tags i retrieve - they are largish lumps under the skin. I read up on some of the fibro links posted above, which was very interesting stuff. The thing that confuses me though is that i don't accept fibro (i don't retrieve anyway!) but in practice take the lumps in all the places described on the websites.
Foreign.
Justy

mellster

Since my viral onset in 2009 I have developed occasional, waxing and waning (waxing with exercise esp. jogging motion), very localized and very superficial pain by my upper left ribs shut to the central cartiledge. It was dxed as costochondritis and part of FM (I had and nonetheless have some general inflammatory pain), but invisible in (almost all) diagnostics. I am in good shape over again and unless I stimulate that region it is very balmy and generally dull, only although I don't particularly feel any lumps St Amands theory is that it is calcified regions that hurt and the CA demand to be 'drained' via big doses of guaifenesin and avoidance of salicilates. As strange as information technology sounds and equally unaccepted equally it is it is the closest non-basket case caption for FM/chostondritis pain besides "invisible" depression-level inflammation. Coincidentaly my viral onset came with a week of bad chest pain (stinging not dull) at exactly the same surface area that is still pain dull now and I have asked numerous times whether it could have been scar tissue or calcified tissue form the viral infection which was raging in the chest just have only earned blank stares so far ;) I just haven't had the guts and time to go through with a hardcore guiafenesin protocol although it seems to have a beneficial result on me generally whenever I have it (east.g. to loosen mucous).

snowathlete

The thing that confuses me though is that i don't have fibro (i don't recollect anyway!)

Snap. It was interesting to read, thank you to mellster for suggesting that. It certainly could be, i dont know. I dont accept FM - at least, like Justy, not that i know.

Pea sized isnt exactly authentic really, i shoudl add together, because some are bigger, and some are more like bands of them.

What exactly is guaifenesin, is it a rubber thing to take in these doses? Why is it thought to remove the deposits?

mellster

Here is a critical writeup of his theory:http://web.mit.edu/london/world wide web/guai.html
Also it talks about phosphate deposits, not calcium deposits though I think I read that those two are connected in his theory (calciumphosphate peradventure?]
Regarding guaifenesin, it is considered very safe as it is safe enough to be in children's cough syrup. It loosens mucous and is a balmy muscle relaxer. Yous tin get information technology pure as mucinex (the guai simply version) or as herbal pills from stores on the web (google "air-power").

Jenny

I had a subarachnoid (brain) haemorrhage after being on guaifenesin for 8 months, some years agone. It may have had zip to do with the guai, but there is some testify that it has blood thinning properties.

I contacted Dr St Amand after I had the bleeding, and he said information technology couldn't be due to the guai, but I do wonder.

It wasn't doing anything for me anyway. (I had been diagnosed with fibro, but didn't accept whatever lumps.)

Jenny

Roni Fredericks

Something i have noticed more than of lately has been lumps nether my skin, especially the rib area, but other places too. Merely about everywhere i think, but more than noticable on the rib cage.

They are sore if y'all rub your fingers along them, and tend to exist small - virtually the size of peas.
I read other people with ME/CFS take them too.

I wonder if anyone knows what they actually are?

And why do we go them? I mean at that place has to be some kind of explaination to information technology. Has anyone had them removed, or studied to see what they are compossed of?

This IS absolutely foreign. I was just feeling my ribs and I felt these lumps... There are Then many though. Pea size and tender. And then I googled and landed here.

I was diagnosed with CFS in my early teens, Fibro in my early twenties, and finally with a more accurate test- Lyme Affliction. My Doctor who is an practiced in CFS/ FM is convinced that The root cause these syndromes is Lyme gone undiagnosed. In my case, I was undiagnosed for decades.

My Doctor never voided out the CFS and FM syndromes considering of our Lyme discovery all the same. I'm lucky to know the causal... Because many who suffer from these syndromes may never know theirs.

Anyway... I'one thousand on my 2nd try at treating this disease. I will surely bring these lumps up at my next Doctor appointment. I can't seem to detect any skilful info on what they really are. My Md is i in a one thousand thousand , she'd know!!! If I remember to report back my findings... I surely will.

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Roni Fredericks

This IS absolutely strange. I was just feeling my ribs and I felt these lumps... At that place are So many though. Pea size and tender. So I googled and landed hither.

I was diagnosed with CFS in my early on teens, Fibro in my early twenties, and finally with a more accurate test- Lyme Disease. My Doc who is an expert in CFS/ FM is convinced that The root crusade these syndromes is Lyme gone undiagnosed. In my example, I was undiagnosed for decades.

My Doc never voided out the CFS and FM syndromes because of our Lyme discovery all the same. I'thou lucky to know the causal... Considering many who suffer from these syndromes may never know theirs.

Anyway... I'm on my 2d attempt at treating this disease. I will surely bring these lumps up at my next Doctor appointment. I can't seem to discover whatever expert info on what they actually are. My Physician is one in a million , she'd know!!! If I call up to written report back my findings... I surely will.

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I have to also say this... Standard Lyme tests generally come back negative... The doctors don't tell usa near the accuracy of these Lyme tests! They should really know this... Because they cannot rule it out. If you have Lyme illness you are pretty damn lucky to get a positive on your lab piece of work upwardly. Information technology shouldn't exist a simple yes or no considering the accurateness is as depression as 35%

I had my blood work sent to a lab in California (I'm from Minnesota) that is more avant-garde in finding Lyme. It's worth looking into if you are feeling hopeless. It's a better answer than the always frustrating CFS/ME characterization. At least yous could testify that something is indeed causing your misery.

I wish everyone who fights this enigma of a disease/syndrome peace of listen and paths to recovery.

I wonder if anyone knows what they really are?

I do not know simply mine got much better with overall improvement. I am thinking something goes incorrect with epidermal growth cistron and/or the receptor.

snowathlete

This IS absolutely strange. I was but feeling my ribs and I felt these lumps... There are So many though. Pea size and tender. And then I googled and landed here.

I was diagnosed with CFS in my early teens, Fibro in my early twenties, and finally with a more accurate test- Lyme Disease. My Physician who is an expert in CFS/ FM is convinced that The root cause these syndromes is Lyme gone undiagnosed. In my example, I was undiagnosed for decades.

My Doctor never voided out the CFS and FM syndromes because of our Lyme discovery however. I'yard lucky to know the causal... Because many who endure from these syndromes may never know theirs.

Anyway... I'g on my second attempt at treating this disease. I volition surely bring these lumps upwards at my next Doctor engagement. I can't seem to find any good info on what they actually are. My Doctor is i in a million , she'd know!!! If I call back to report dorsum my findings... I surely volition.

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Wouldn't be surprised if Lyme take similar, or fifty-fifty the aforementioned, lumps. I don't think it's Lyme in my case, as I had ten months of antibiotics for suspected Lyme and all I got was more sick (induced ulcerative colitis) and lumps still there, though I take gotten used to them I guess and notice them less than I did. I'd really like to know what causes them.

When I have ´flares´ I take hurting in the side of the ribcage, which would seem to correspond roughly with the lymph node areas.

justy

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looks similar they could exist intercostal lymph nodes - I wonder why they are enlarged in that area in so many of us? I have lumps effectually pea size, betwixt the ribs on left hand side - they come and become and are very tender to palpate.

Yes, I have been trying to work that out too. I likewise seem to have swollen cervix lymph nodes during flares. I did endeavor to work out what the lymph nodes that were pain were supposed to be draining, just information technology´south quite hard to do without medical grooming. I thought at one point that they might be draining the gut, which would make sense in the context of my affliction, but that´south really just a approximate.

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@msf @justy @snowathlete

Yup, I definitely recollect these are lymph nodes. Palpitating these lymph nodes was part of the diagnostic process i underwent earlier starting the Perrin Technique. In that location is a particularly large cluster a little way underneath the left armpit which he has eponymously dubbed "the Perrin Betoken". The significance of it existence on the left is that the correct merely drains correct side of the chest earlier draining through the subclavian vein, whereas the left hand side drains the entire body including the right leg and all the way up.

Dr Perrin's book gives clear diagrams of this organisation that can be varified by looking at lymph maps online. There is a lot of misinformation about the lymphatic system online, however, as some people recommend brushing lymph towards lymph nodes. This is a terrible idea. All superficial lymph drains into the subclavian vein beneath the clavicles and all lymph must exist brushed towards these points. Again, check out his book for further info.

I'd similar to know what these are, too. I have the same lumpy, bumpy things, but mine certainly aren't small-scale. They're similar rolls. Dr says it's fatty and nothing to worry about, simply they go along growing. I noticed them nether the left rib area like 3 years ago and since then, they've grown huge - and go on to grow. I'm worried, but the Dr sure isn't. I've got a host of other problems, too, that he's basically ignoring, merely I'm worried because more and more odd things are happening to my trunk. I stumbled across this postal service when I googled my lumpy, bumpy rib issue. Can anyone suggest annihilation? I've had multiple tests, just everything comes back normal.

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